Legislature(2005 - 2006)CAPITOL 120

01/27/2006 01:00 PM House JUDICIARY


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= HB 150 LICENSING RADIOLOGIC TECHNICIANS TELECONFERENCED
Scheduled But Not Heard
*+ HB 379 CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES, INCL. ANALOGS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
*+ HB 343 HARASSMENT TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+= Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
= HB 326 POSTING LEWD MATERIAL AS HARASSMENT
Moved New CSHB 326(JUD) Out of Committee
= HB 321 AGGRAVATED DRUNK DRIVING
Heard & Held
= HB 314 USE OF FORCE TO PROTECT SELF/HOME
Heard & Held
HB 379 - CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES, INCL. ANALOGS                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:58:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR McGUIRE announced that the  next order of business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL NO. 379, "An Act relating to controlled substances."                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KEVIN MEYER, Alaska  State Legislature, sponsor of                                                               
HB  379, relayed  that the  bill  was engendered  by an  incident                                                               
wherein a 16-year-old  girl died and an  18-year-old was severely                                                               
injured after a group of older  men slipped an analog of GHB into                                                               
their drinks.   This legislation,  he explained,  elevates gamma-                                                               
hydroxybutyric  acid  (GHB) and  its  analogs  to a  schedule  IA                                                               
controlled  substance from  its current  listing as  schedule IVA                                                               
controlled substance.   He opined that GHB should  be elevated to                                                               
a schedule  IA because the primary  purpose of GHB is  for use in                                                               
date rape.   Furthermore, the  drug is potent,  almost impossible                                                               
to detect,  and easily slipped  into a drink.   Specifically, GHB                                                               
induces a  feeling of severe  intoxication and enables  others to                                                               
take advantage  of the vulnerable and  incoherent individuals who                                                               
are under its influence.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MEYER  highlighted  that  HB  379  also  includes                                                               
analogs  in the  statutory definitions  of controlled  substance.                                                               
He  further  noted that  the  legislation  does exempt  compounds                                                               
approved  by the  Federal Drug  Administration (FDA)  as well  as                                                               
those compounds involved  in specific medical tests  and used for                                                               
human consumption.  He specified  that HB 379 attempts to cleanup                                                               
the statutes while sending a  message that [use of] the compounds                                                               
in GHB are unacceptable and dangerous.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:01:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  asked if  the sponsor would  be willing                                                               
to narrow the title.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MEYER replied, "Yes."                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARA opined  that the  purpose of  HB 379  "seems                                                               
appropriate."  However, the list  of chemicals considered illegal                                                               
drugs under  HB 379  is lengthy, and  therefore he  expressed the                                                               
need to  hear from  someone that the  chemicals listed  should be                                                               
considered illegal.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MEYER  said that  there are  individuals available                                                               
who can address that question.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:02:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TRINKA PORRATA, President, Project GHB,  began by noting that she                                                               
is  a retired  Los Angeles  police officer.   She  explained that                                                               
Project GHB  is a nonprofit  organization dedicated  to educating                                                               
people about GHB, a drug that she  has dealt with for the past 10                                                               
years.  She  noted that she is considered the  nation's expert on                                                               
GHB and thus has worked with  some of the top researchers of this                                                               
drug.   Ms.  Porrata said  that she  is glad  that this  issue is                                                               
being  addressed.   Furthermore,  the  analog  provision is  very                                                               
important because GHB has many  analogs, even more than the three                                                               
listed in  the bill.   The analog provision provides  the [state]                                                               
the  opportunity to  address them  without the  time required  to                                                               
pass legislation for  each drug.  She explained  that analogs are                                                               
chemical   cousins  and   thus   have  similar/related   chemical                                                               
structure and effects.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:06:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANNE  CARPENETI,  Assistant   Attorney  General,  Legal  Services                                                               
Section-Juneau,  Criminal  Division,  Department  of  Law  (DOL),                                                               
relayed  that the  DOL supports  HB  379, although  she said  she                                                               
cannot speak to some of the technical aspects of it.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG, drew the  committee's attention to page                                                               
2, lines 1-10, and relayed  his reluctance to adopt this language                                                               
because it may be subject to a challenge of void for vagueness.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. PORRATA  pointed out that the  language [on page 2,  lines 1-                                                               
10]  is  similar to  that  adopted  by  both California  and  the                                                               
federal  government to  address analogs.   Ms.  Porrata explained                                                               
that  an analog  of  a controlled  substance would  automatically                                                               
refer to the controlled substance.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  clarified that  his concern  is whether                                                               
such language  has already  been interpreted by  the courts.   He                                                               
questioned how [the public] could  be given fair notice that they                                                               
may be  prosecuted for  possessing something  that isn't  even in                                                               
existence or listed [as prohibited].                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:10:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. PORRATA interjected  that the point of that  language is that                                                               
when  a   comparable  drug  to   one  listed  is   created,  it's                                                               
automatically covered.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  reiterated that his concern  is whether                                                               
such can  be done from  a constitutional perspective  because due                                                               
process requires  fair notice.   He expressed interest  in seeing                                                               
case law  on the aforementioned,  though he noted his  support of                                                               
the legislation.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PORRATA relayed  that similar  language has  been tested  in                                                               
federal   court  and   has  been   consistently   upheld.     She                                                               
acknowledged that each  time [an analog is added]  there has been                                                               
a challenge, but the law itself has been upheld.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG requested  that  the  DOL research  his                                                               
concerns.  He  also expressed his desire to hear  from the public                                                               
defender on this matter.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WILSON offered her  understanding that because the                                                               
drug involves chemical formulas, [the  bill has been] narrowed to                                                               
refer to similar molecular structures.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:12:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG  said  he   is  wondering  whether  the                                                               
language "substantially  similar" has  been upheld by  the courts                                                               
and, if  so, how has  it been upheld.   He then pointed  out that                                                               
the language on page 2, lines  7-10, refers to any substance that                                                               
has a particular effect on the central nervous system.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:13:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL  PAWLOWSKI, Staff  to Representative  Kevin Meyer,  House                                                               
Finance  Committee,  Alaska  State Legislature,  surmised,  then,                                                               
that  Representative  Gruenberg   is  concerned  about  providing                                                               
notice  when   a  chemical  compound  is   made  illegal  without                                                               
specifically being mentioned in law.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  further clarified that he  is concerned                                                               
because these  analogs aren't  even referenced  in a  list that's                                                               
established by regulation.  He  then noted that the bill contains                                                               
a provision repealing AS 11.71.170(b)(28), and asked why.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. PAWLOWSKI specified  that it refers to the  chemical name for                                                               
GHB  as it  is currently  listed in  the schedule  IVA controlled                                                               
substance statute.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARA expressed  the  need to  be  reassured be  a                                                               
chemist that each  of the chemicals listed in  the legislation is                                                               
GHB.   The  language  on  page 1,  line  6,  specifies that  also                                                               
illegal is  any salt  or isomer  contained in  one of  the listed                                                               
drugs.  In regard to that  language, he expressed the need for [a                                                               
chemist] to  specify whether  any of these  drugs contain  a sub-                                                               
isomer that may be legitimate.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
[HB 379 was held over.]                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                

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